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Question: Breeding black persian cats? breeding information?

(Posted by: heather on 2012-01-24 14:00:43)

I have a pure black persian male (I have papers for him), he is about a year old and I am curious about breeding him here soon. I do not know much about breeding cats so I would like some insight on when he will be ready and at what ages will a female persian be ready. Also, what color persians I can breed him with. If I were to breed him with a white persian what color do you think the kittens would be? Are black persians more desirable? Any opinions and advice are welcome! Thanks in advance.

Posted by: J C on 2012-01-24, 14:48:48

Has he been genetically tested and certified free of the gene for PKD? And what about HCM? Those are two genetic diseases of Persians that *are* passed on to the kittens - both are fatal, generally by the time the cat is 4-6. If yours has not been tested, or his cattery is not certified as free of these diseases, then he shouldn't be bred - "papers " don't mean a cat should be bred, it just means that they are what they are represented to be. Has he been shown, and a championship example of his breed? If not then he should be bred, either. The point of breeding is to improve the breed, create more kittens. He really should be neutered, and not bred, as he's getting to an age where he's going to become sexually mature and start spraying all over your house to claim his territory - it REEKS. And it's a much easier habit to prevent than cure after the fact.

Posted by: cat lover on 2012-01-24, 14:19:59

I think your main problem will be in finding someone who has a female queen with the proper papers that will consent to a mating. Breeding Persians, if not done properly, can result in kittens who may have lifelong respiratory problems, due to their pushed in facial features. I would try and contact a Persian cat group that is likely to be in your area or nearby and start making contacts. But I do have one question. Most Persian breeders do not sell unfixed kittens, and since he is one year old, if he has not exhibited symptoms of sexual maturity, are you sure he is intact?

Posted by: Café Mocha Valencia on 2012-01-24, 16:05:35

And here's a TICA, CFA or ACFA registered Persian that you've been given breeding rights for by the breeder? And he's show quality cat and from Champion, Grand Champion bloodlines? And he's a titled show cat himself? And you have proof that he is PKD-? If not - no breeder will ALLOW your cat to mate with theirs. I'm betting the answer to everything above is pretty much NO so this is not a cat that should be bred. Please leave breeding to the PROFESSIONALS doing so for the right reasons - for the love of and to better the breed. What's yours?

Posted by: Ariane deR on 2012-01-25, 07:05:47

There is a lot to learn about breeding for those who do it the right way. I HOPE you don't want to be yet another of the many ignorant, irresponsible people breeding Persians -- there are already way too many of those!. In deciding whether to breed your cat, you need to put the breed , and the potential kittens he would sire above your personal wish for your cat to reproduce. This means you need to be willing to ONLY try to breed the cat IF he meets certain standards for health, conformation and temperament. AND if there is a pedigreed queen with the same qualifications to breed him to, who is a good match as far as their strengths/ weaknesses and pedigrees, AND you have breeding rights/ cat is not on limited registration, Otherwise neuter him and just keep him as a pet. Health testing: not just a basic vet exam. but he needs genetic test for PKD, heart checked with ultrasound for HCM, blood test for FIV and FeLV, checked before breeding for internal & external parasites. Also he really should be shown to at least a Champion title. This would mean he's examined in person by several judges who are trained to look for structural problems and judge how he conforms to the breed standard. If you show & title him there is a much better chance that someone with a quality queen would want to use him as a stud. Normal & Abnormal body structure cfa.org/ client/ articlebody.aspx head cfa.org/ client/ head.aspx CFA Persian breed standard cfa.org/ documents/ breeds/ standards/ persian.pdf Basically to do this right you need a mentor. CFA & TICA both have a program where you can request a mentor. Your cat's breeder would usually be the obvious place to start. But the better breeders would not sell a stranger/ novice an unaltered kitten with no spay/ neuter contract. and anyone who would do that would not be the best person to get advice from. Here is an article by a Persian breeder "So You Want a Litter ". As you can probably guess from the title, it's aimed at people wanting to breed their female cat, but some of this would apply to your situation as far as qualifications for breeding. And if you're considering purchasing a female for your male to breed , the whole thing would apply. pelaqitapersians.com/ Want_A_Litter.php For you wanting your male cat to be a stud, there's a different set of issues. Most studs spray. And if they spray , they can't just have the run of your house. You have to provide easily cleanable stud quarters. The other thing is, if you are planning to breed him to someone else's queen, the queen normally comes to the stud and stays there a few days. Cats are more likely to successfully breed in the stud's territory. It's recommended to have a pen for the queen within the stud quarters. then when she starts to settle in and seems more receptive you let them be together. You'd have to be responsible for supervising matings. COAT COLOUR GENETICS : Technically you can breed a black Persian to any colour of Persian. I would think it would make sense to concentrate on black (or blue if he is carrying the dilute gene) . Or black smoke? Or if you bred to a tortie female you might get black males & females, tortie or red females. But I wouldn't just be thinking about colour. If you bred a Black Persian to a White Persian, the results would depend on the genes they are carrying. You would probably get at least some Solid White kittens. If a White dam has 2 copies of Dominant White, then ALL her kittens would be White. If she has just one copy of Dominant White then you would probably get some kittens that were not white. but their colour/ pattern would depend what colour / pattern is hidden by the white.